Brad Enslen

Mar 2025

I’m seeing a lot of articles saying that Trump and Vance knowingly ambushed Zelensky on purpose to either get him to give in or as an excuse for Trump to back out of any support. What do you think? Is that likely?

Grandma Peartree

I doubt if either of them has the intellectual power to think that far ahead, to be honest.

Andy Sylvester

I have also seen these posts, I think it is probable that it was an “ambush”, and that it was not overly planned, but just grew into a conflagration due to the personalities of Trump and Vance, and the spinelessness of the people around them.

Brad Enslen

@AndySylvester “Not overly planned,” seems likely.